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Monday, August 15, 2011

A Common Statist Fallacy

TJ has left a new comment on your post "Indications Of Progress":

I've heard the argument for privatizing law enforcement, but what would take the place of Department of Justice and district courts, if the state monopoly on justice is abolished? What is to prevent profit from being the priority over justice?
"Profit over justice" is *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW*.

With free market courts, if a court had a reputation for making bad decisions, they would lose customers.

If I have the ability to force you to use my biased corrupt court, then I'm the government. With market competition, courts will be forced to be as fair as possible.

In the present, if insiders buy judges and Congressmen, then people are SOL.

Consider other examples:

Without government, there would be pollution! The Oil Pollution Act explicitly exempts oil drillers from liability. The "Halliburton Loophole" explicitly exempts fracking from liability. The polluter can declare bankruptcy and default on their responsibility. (There's no limited liability incorporation in a really free market.) It is very hard to sue a polluter and hold them accountable, in a State court.

Without government, corrupt bankers would rob and steal and cheat depositors! You're an idiot if you really believe this.

Without government, a bunch of thugs would go around extorting from people! This is how tax collectors behave.

Without government, a bunch of thugs would assault business owners! Have you seen the various "raw milk" raids?

Without government, a bunch of thugs might murder people! Have you heard any of the stories of people murdered by police?

Without government, it's be hard to collect from someone who injured you! The legal system is incredibly inefficient, denying many people justice.

This is a VERY COMMON MISUNDERSTANDING. A pro-State troll says "Without government, abuse X would occur.", when the reality is that abuse X occurs right now, PRECISELY BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT.

3 comments:

gilliganscorner said...

This is a VERY COMMON MISUNDERSTANDING. A pro-State troll says "Without government, abuse X would occur.", when the reality is that abuse X occurs right now, PRECISELY BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT.

Pro-State trolls also make the flipside "argument":

"If government did not provide X, then X would not be provided."

For example, there's a fellow where I live who has become disgusted with the lack of government support providing low-cost housing. Guess what he did? He bought a house to provide low-cost housing for poor people...and is getting stonewalled by government red tape preventing helping these people!

Anonymous said...

In the UK we often hear of appalling standards in care homes, with residents being locked in their rooms or treated far worse.

There is nothing to stop ordinary people buying a house and housing all their old parents in it. Anyone with spare time or who is unemployed at the time could look after the residents.

However I'm sure it is the raft of regulations and red tape that put people off.

Anonymous said...

The king claimed he built her a castle....
But the queen said he built her a jail....
Perspective is almost everything, but Andre Aggassi said: "IMAGE IS EVERYTHING"
steamroller says: It all depends on whose ox is being gored.

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