tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post5332028868327601498..comments2023-09-24T08:04:06.909-04:00Comments on FSK's Guide to Reality: IBM's Watson On JeopardyFSKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11903396202330950362noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post-51045717135021094242011-03-07T14:34:29.564-05:002011-03-07T14:34:29.564-05:00I think if a human contestant went unconscious the...I think if a human contestant went unconscious they would stop taping, so that argument is really dumb. You have enough good points to leave this ridiculous one out.Chuck Homichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09183501773393973834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post-34732865208282545872011-03-07T00:59:18.183-05:002011-03-07T00:59:18.183-05:00Every intelligent man must at some point in his li...Every intelligent man must at some point in his life realize that he was born with a program implanted in his head (it might be similar for females, but I suspect less so because females are more highly programed). <br />I wonder if that is how it might be for the first "aware" computer? <br />Humans are "aware", but they are still programmed. Some of them know that they are programmed but even then they can not escape the program. This is a very sticky point. <br />Being aware of the programing changes nothing?<br />-DCDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post-52278213220164097512011-03-06T16:58:39.943-05:002011-03-06T16:58:39.943-05:00"Is the Mind a Computer?"
There's a..."Is the Mind a Computer?"<br /><br />There's a shitload of articles just like that that IBM's publicist agency has placed throughout the media. No different than all the FaceBook coverage Goldman Sachs has been ordering up, including the Academy Awards win, Time's Man of the Year, and the upcoming Nobel Peace Prize (not yet announced).<br /><br />You can tell it's propaganda because it all sticks to a consistent talking points memo and doesn't fgo off that topic.Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post-65643410837993728832011-03-06T14:48:33.404-05:002011-03-06T14:48:33.404-05:00Check this article out:
Is the Mind a Computer?
h...Check this article out:<br /><br />Is the Mind a Computer?<br />http://creationsafaris.com/crev201103.htm#20110305a<br /><br />"After a computer named Watson beat two contestants on Jeopardy last month, people are asking if the human mind is becoming obsolete. What are the similarities and differences between gray matter and deep blue?"dionysusalhttp://www.angelfire.com/theforce/dionysus/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post-25152631239600844572011-03-05T21:45:53.040-05:002011-03-05T21:45:53.040-05:00A more important question is can humans control th...A more important question is can humans control their own bodies?<br />If humans were able to control molecular interactions inside their bodies then computer artificial intelligence would be almost irrelevant.-DCDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post-59436277449712897582011-03-05T16:07:18.198-05:002011-03-05T16:07:18.198-05:00Your analysis is identical in everyway to the one ...Your analysis is identical in everyway to the one I came up with after watching the show.<br /><br />1. It's an ad for IBM, nothing more.<br /><br />2. The timing advantage is not realistic at all since we already know that computers can react to electrical signals faster than humans, so what is the point, the computer will press the buzzer faster 100% of the time if both know the answer before the timing light/signal goes off. That has nothing to do with natural language understanding, which the ad is trying to promote. This point was not mentioned at all during the show.<br /><br />3. The computer did not have to parse the shapes into words like humans do. Can computers scan ascii faster than a person? Yes, but that has nothing to do with understanding and pre-processing the computers data in advance by converting it to an instantly transmitted ascii block is another advantage that was not discussed.<br /><br />If the show was run honestly the computer would not have won.Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post-53269227900031734502011-03-05T14:06:14.377-05:002011-03-05T14:06:14.377-05:00From Wikipedia:
"Watson had access to 200 mi...From Wikipedia:<br /><br />"Watson had access to 200 million pages of structured and unstructured content consuming four terabytes of disk storage, including the full text of Wikipedia. Watson was not connected to the Internet during the game."<br /><br />Even though it wasn't connected to the Internet, it still had "personal knowledge" of many more "facts" than a human could ever have, so it was completely unfair. Is it an impressive software engineering feat to be able to sift through that mountain of data and come up with a specific answer to a specific question? Yeah, I suppose so. But so what? Like you said, it wouldn't even be able to pass a Turing Test, so how impressive is it really?dionysusalhttp://www.angelfire.com/theforce/dionysus/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2182962435875556601.post-46492417075683611012011-03-05T12:52:32.700-05:002011-03-05T12:52:32.700-05:00Agree and disagree.
Yes! The whole thing was noth...Agree and disagree.<br /><br />Yes! The whole thing was nothing but the ad for IBM. Fake, ridiculous and self-evident shameless promotion. If placed in fair conditions, this computer not only would have never had any chance to win, it would have not even appeared on the show, because it "lost it's consciousness".<br /><br />ha-ha-ha<br /><br />I argued with all my coworkers because they didn't see how this was and ad for IBM and how unfair the setting was.<br /><br />----<br /><br />Nope! There was nothing impressive at all about computer's answers. I could have programmed it better and I am not even considered at IBM. There was nothing, I repeat, nothing cool about the code.<br /><br />All they did was:<br /><br />-Translate the question into series of requests.<br /><br />-Search available databases (even wikipedia saved on it's HD would suffice) for answers that satisfy all the requests in milliseconds.<br /><br />-Take results and form human-sounding answer.<br /><br /><br />This is NOT how human being thinks and is not comparable or indicative of any comparative performance.<br /><br />This is a joke. To me, it shows the dismal, pre-collapse state of domestic science, that poses itself as breaking new barriers, while in truthful judgment it is standing still considering the financing it gets.<br /><br />Some folks are impressed, also, because the Jeopardy is a game that looks impressive to an American from an American school. But, as compared to the intellectual challenges being played in other countries this jeopardy really looks like it is for retarded people. This even further decreases the supposed "achievements" of IBM.<br /><br />What you are living through right now is "Zastoi", where they kept declaring one "achievement" after another. So, keep your compass straight. The IBM computer was a shame in every respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com